tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post115255477812617660..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: Going round in circlesSUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152744003447581712006-07-12T15:40:00.000-07:002006-07-12T15:40:00.000-07:00Thank you Catherine - that was lovingly put. Perh...Thank you Catherine - that was lovingly put. Perhaps oddly to some, I don't really happen to disagree with the basis of what you said at all...<BR/><BR/>Lorian - Peace be to you and thank you for taking the time to read my reply. <BR/><BR/>Forgive me until I can take time to get "signed up", but until then -<BR/><BR/>"Poster boy"<BR/><BR/>May God bless you all.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152739742104765632006-07-12T14:29:00.000-07:002006-07-12T14:29:00.000-07:00If you read it closer you can see the 'poster boy'...If you read it closer you can see the 'poster boy':) did say: <BR/><BR/>"His state of repentance wasn't mentioned and is between Him and God" <BR/><BR/>I'm not sure I'd want to be individually addressed by someone as angry as you appear to be, but sign me - <BR/><BR/>"Give the guy credit where due"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152731329219022032006-07-12T12:08:00.000-07:002006-07-12T12:08:00.000-07:00Anonymous (boy, it gets tiresome addressing anonym...Anonymous (boy, it gets tiresome addressing anonymous after anonymous after anonymous -- I wish the "anonymouses" would at least log in under a creative pseudonym, so that one could address them as individuals):<BR/><BR/><I>Did someone here say suicide was a sin - I missed that. Mabye. It looked like the point was he was told he was OK. But should his minister have seen he had some terrible Lorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607439799725636481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152729593299815992006-07-12T11:39:00.000-07:002006-07-12T11:39:00.000-07:00"If we're going to baptize women and girls, we hav..."If we're going to baptize women and girls, we have the authority to ordain them. <BR/>And if we have the authority to ordain them, we have the authority to consecrate them bishops. <BR/>And if we have the authority to consecrate them bishops, <BR/>why by golly, there's no reason they can't be elected to a primate's position.<BR/>For those who oppose women's ordination: stop baptizing them. <Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267544451078638468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152725151444466522006-07-12T10:25:00.000-07:002006-07-12T10:25:00.000-07:00Did someone here say suicide was a sin - I missed ...Did someone here say suicide was a sin - I missed that. Mabye. It looked like the point was he was told he was OK. But should his minister have seen he had some terrible problms pushing him to such a bad choice. Was the priest really accused of causiing all this? It appeared more like concern for good pastoral care and not blaming an idividual. The poster said the man died of disease not sin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152720152650906392006-07-12T09:02:00.000-07:002006-07-12T09:02:00.000-07:00Anonymous, as I understand it, official church doc...Anonymous, as I understand it, official church doctrine says that suicides are not considered to be damned on the basis of their suicidal act, as there is a presumption that someone who commits suicide is not, at that moment, sane, and therefore cannot be held responsible for his or her action. I have no idea of the state of this man's soul at his death (I certainly do not believe that his Lorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607439799725636481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152718163326375902006-07-12T08:29:00.000-07:002006-07-12T08:29:00.000-07:00The centuries of faith will be restored after a br...The centuries of faith will be restored after a brief hiatus in which what is going on will be understood as destructive to the very people it is claiming to help. It's the false benevolence that will be understood more clearly.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152684113202620472006-07-11T23:01:00.000-07:002006-07-11T23:01:00.000-07:00quote from the article"But deep gloom seems to be ...quote from the article<BR/>"<BR/>But deep gloom seems to be surrounding the senior staff that the covenant plan to save the Anglican communion is falling apart even before anyone's started discussing what might be in it. One senior figure admitted he did not think the communion could survive until the next scheduled meeting of all the world's Anglican bishops in 2008."<BR/><BR/>So identity Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152665195960604822006-07-11T17:46:00.000-07:002006-07-11T17:46:00.000-07:00In the spirit of utmost charity, please understand...In the spirit of utmost charity, please understand after making the argument for thirty years, most Anglicans, even a significant number in TEC have a deep theological objection to the ordination of women. When a woman is "ordained" in this Church she must accept this as a reality. This will not change. Thus the Presididng Bishop elect becomes Presiding Lay person elect. Now, understanding this: Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152657090318182042006-07-11T15:31:00.000-07:002006-07-11T15:31:00.000-07:00No, you don't seem to be following well. I'll slo...No, you don't seem to be following well. I'll slow it down for the sake of dialogue over argument...<BR/><BR/>"THE woman" in MY case proved to be easily swayed by allowing "heart" (your word, I used "emotion") to overcome sound judgement, just as do some with "external genetalia" as I stated. Hysteria was not mentioned by me, nor did I find the nice lady "hysterical".<BR/> <BR/>I did come to Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152644271947000032006-07-11T11:57:00.000-07:002006-07-11T11:57:00.000-07:00So, anonymous#2, what I hear you saying is that wo...So, anonymous#2, what I hear you saying is that women are "too emotional" to be good priests, and think with their hearts, not their heads? And that, in "rushing" to ordain lots and lots of women priests in a hurry, bishops are failing to give female candidates due process in order to weed out the overly hysterical among them? Did I understand you correctly?<BR/><BR/>Additionally, you are Lorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607439799725636481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152643657729307302006-07-11T11:47:00.000-07:002006-07-11T11:47:00.000-07:00Bless you, Lorian, but it appears 'anonymous' clea...Bless you, Lorian, but it appears 'anonymous' clearly noted that both young men suffered tragic deaths and departed this world with souls in jeopardy, as many of us see it. That may be different from your opinion as to the nature of God, but thank God it's a free country.<BR/><BR/>Nothing wrong with women here personally, but just like many of us with 'external' genetalia, they may suffer from Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152636976579268262006-07-11T09:56:00.000-07:002006-07-11T09:56:00.000-07:00Anonymous, I'm not sure I follow your point. Are ...Anonymous, I'm not sure I follow your point. Are you saying that the man died of AIDS because it was God's "punishment" for his "sin" of being gay? Or did he die of AIDS because it was God's punishment to him for attending a church pastored by a woman priest? And was the woman-priest's doctrine "incorrect," in your view, because she was female, and this lack of external genitalia caused her toLorianhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10607439799725636481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152621593732453062006-07-11T05:39:00.000-07:002006-07-11T05:39:00.000-07:00Mr. Preston Osborne, from Southern California sent...Mr. Preston Osborne, from Southern California sent this in. "Episcopalians have been on the slippery slope for a long time...This latest move (by General Convention) that rejects the fact that Jesus Christ is the only way to Heaven is not surprising. I had two male cousins that were openly homosexual. One died a very painful death due to AIDS; recently the other one committed suicide. Their "Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1152557518263377552006-07-10T11:51:00.000-07:002006-07-10T11:51:00.000-07:00I think our Presiding Bishop Elect will display a ...I think our Presiding Bishop Elect will display a wonderful presence at the meeting. I'm happy that this has been scheduled so others may get to know her. It will be a good meeting.Gordonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17962773364437172375noreply@blogger.com