tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post3357593365552567835..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: PRELIMINARY Draft Statement from New Orleans HoB MeetingSUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-11275047477734890572007-09-25T15:38:00.000-07:002007-09-25T15:38:00.000-07:00Is "mumbling at great length" a mandatory course a...Is "mumbling at great length" a mandatory course at all seminaries? How about "coming down firmly on both sides of the fence"?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-84807264782415430162007-09-24T22:10:00.000-07:002007-09-24T22:10:00.000-07:00This draft statement seems to add little to the co...This draft statement seems to add little to the conversation. It appears to be a restatement of what the Bishops have already said and what convention has said and a statement of the ongoing issue. Not much new -- and maybe that's the news. No reactivity, no drama, no response to the Primates in any substantive way.Clearly the "leaking" of the statement is a means to judge response before the theMark Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06969804747892807028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-58950463709781383462007-09-24T21:00:00.000-07:002007-09-24T21:00:00.000-07:00See just posted "Lions and Tigers" commentary.All ...See just posted "Lions and Tigers" commentary.<BR/><BR/>All for now!SUSAN RUSSELLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-35428431394011899522007-09-24T19:55:00.000-07:002007-09-24T19:55:00.000-07:00Yes, Kelly!Susan: We need clarification asap. The ...Yes, Kelly!<BR/><BR/>Susan: We need clarification asap. The "other side" is going bonkers over this and +Jon is becoming the laughingstock of our adversaries. Say it isn't so!<BR/><BR/>Blessings,<BR/>PWPadre Waynehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14464349177761679190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-51255573347098385712007-09-24T18:58:00.000-07:002007-09-24T18:58:00.000-07:00I am saddened by this. I came to this church becau...I am saddened by this. I came to this church because I saw full inclusion. I have such great frustration that we are attempting to please everyone at the expense of the g/l/b/t Christian. The surest way to failure is to try to please everyone. It feels like I am issue to be dealt with in ways that dont make others upset. There is more to my Christianity than just my sexuality. Why is it that weafricantrekkerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13742033500881963509noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-24705506215738121192007-09-24T18:23:00.000-07:002007-09-24T18:23:00.000-07:00Susan--Please! Bishop Bruno said in the press conf...Susan--Please! Bishop Bruno said in the press conference that the blessing of same-sex unions don't happen in his diocese. We know he officiated at Malcolm's service. What gives? Is this not the bad old days of secrecy?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-60304667891998544192007-09-24T17:57:00.000-07:002007-09-24T17:57:00.000-07:00Susan:Do you mind if I share this with the folks o...Susan:<BR/><BR/>Do you mind if I share this with the folks on PEP Chat? Thats Progressive Episcopalians of Pittsburgh, our Via Media Affliliate. <BR/><BR/>BobAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-58598252724871918712007-09-24T16:39:00.000-07:002007-09-24T16:39:00.000-07:00Susan:I'm with you, I don't see how putting a pict...Susan:<BR/><BR/>I'm with you, I don't see how putting a picture window on this process is going to give people the chance they need to deliberate in a contemplative manner. I don't suggest that the proceedings be secretive, simply that once the doors are closed, the grandstanding can potentially be stopped. <BR/><BR/>Goodness knows, we're all aware of how much will be written AFTER the fact, Jack Sprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12894134532509615370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-18638914488334665362007-09-24T14:25:00.000-07:002007-09-24T14:25:00.000-07:00Howe's resolution is DOA.They know that. The "end ...Howe's resolution is DOA.<BR/><BR/>They know that. <BR/><BR/>The "end game" now is to get it on the floor and voted down as a wedge to use with the Primates.<BR/><BR/>Stay tuned.SUSAN RUSSELLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-76181428828772350612007-09-24T13:49:00.000-07:002007-09-24T13:49:00.000-07:00We proclaim the Gospel that in Christ all God's ch...<I>We proclaim the Gospel that in Christ all God's children, including gay and lesbian persons, are full and equal participants in the life of Christ's Church.</I><BR/><BR/>This is simply not true. We all know it's not true. I think even the very dullest bishops know it's not true.<BR/><BR/>If the HOB now thinks it can just outright lie whenever it seems convenient and expect the rest of the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-61645133429314321702007-09-24T11:40:00.000-07:002007-09-24T11:40:00.000-07:00This is a conversation the progressives are having...This is a conversation the progressives are having with themselves. Does anyone think, even for a moment that regardless of how much we surrender our lesbian and gay siblings we can satisfy +Nigeria, the Nutwork or the clutch of "African" bishops now breathing fire across North America? Really, it is rather a waste of time. <BR/><BR/>On the other hand, I suppose one needs find the least JimBhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17312606954135884910noreply@blogger.com