tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post3472898464480788668..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: MY NOMINEES FOR QUOTE OF THE WEEK:SUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-37646935115998703582007-08-21T17:59:00.000-07:002007-08-21T17:59:00.000-07:00Ron, I know this post has progressed beyond the fi...Ron, I know this post has progressed beyond the first page, so I don't know if you'll see this. I'm not sure how many churches actually fit your profile, and am not familiar with the Dennis Canon beyond seeing it used a few times in comments such as those here. Could you point me toward the text of that, and a bit of history of its use and acceptance? I'm going to Google it myself, but you Suzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529580138314011952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-78516384499693267382007-08-21T09:59:00.000-07:002007-08-21T09:59:00.000-07:00Ron -- can you explain how it is theft if the prop...<I>Ron -- can you explain how it is theft if the property is owned by the Diocese or the National Church? I'm not following your line of reasoning.</I><BR/><BR/><I>I understand the pain on both sides of the property disputes, but it seems to me if the deed is held either by the Diocese, or by the local church in trust for the Diocese, that a congregation claiming to own the property will get the RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-45591304643482691392007-08-18T21:07:00.000-07:002007-08-18T21:07:00.000-07:00Ron -- can you explain how it is theft if the prop...Ron -- can you explain how it is theft if the property is owned by the Diocese or the National Church? I'm not following your line of reasoning.<BR/><BR/>I understand the pain on both sides of the property disputes, but it seems to me if the deed is held either by the Diocese, or by the local church in trust for the Diocese, that a congregation claiming to own the property will get the short endSuzerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03529580138314011952noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-17661310993667305112007-08-17T09:09:00.000-07:002007-08-17T09:09:00.000-07:00Fine, then; regardless of whether the claim is fro...Fine, then; regardless of whether the claim is from the National Church or the Diocese, it's still theft. And again, the concept that we are an episcopally led church is a spiritual issue, not a temporal one.RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-63163076908047140692007-08-17T00:04:00.000-07:002007-08-17T00:04:00.000-07:00Reasserters are so willing to give over the intima...Reasserters are so willing to give over the intimate sex-lives of gays to God, yet can't grasp the fact that a church, no matter who paid for it, belongs to God, too.<BR/><BR/>Double standards continue -- <I>your</I> life is God's, but <I>my</I> building is mineminemine!MarkBrunsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16971990948866488080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-6698544173546659702007-08-16T17:30:00.000-07:002007-08-16T17:30:00.000-07:00When I leave my job, I'll be happy to leave the of...When I leave my job, I'll be happy to leave the office behind!<BR/><BR/>This one gets my voteMaureenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12882514467861037012noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-82436272420112866342007-08-16T11:39:00.000-07:002007-08-16T11:39:00.000-07:00I read a survey recently in which members of Ameri...I read a survey recently in which members of American mega churches were polled about what they liked about going to church. Among the “likes” were food courts, gift shops, big video screens and rock music. Among the dislikes were stained glass windows, steeples, the liturgy, crosses and organ music. Clearly some traditions are more easily discarded than others.<BR/><BR/>Those of us who support Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-20289574925599325592007-08-16T09:37:00.000-07:002007-08-16T09:37:00.000-07:00My question would be: Whose name is on the deed? ...My question would be: Whose name is on the deed? Is there a "Deed of Trust" on the property?<BR/><BR/>Or am I showing my ignorance/stupidity...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-50644990644198316652007-08-16T09:04:00.000-07:002007-08-16T09:04:00.000-07:00ronf ... "...claiming that property purchased and ...<STRONG>ronf ... "</STRONG>...claiming that property purchased and developed with the money, labor and sacrifice of a parish actually belongs to the National Church ..."<BR/><BR/>BEEP, BEEP, BEEP.<BR/><BR/>Nobody's claiming that, Ron. Check again. It belongs to the DIOCESE ... as anybody who's ever sat on a vestry involved in a property purchase or sale or a Standing Committee OKing the sale or Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-40156897978008671112007-08-16T08:08:00.000-07:002007-08-16T08:08:00.000-07:00Bibliolatry is a boulder threatening to obscure th...<I>Bibliolatry is a boulder threatening to obscure the dynamic and contemporary truth of the resurrection.</I><BR/><BR/>What's "Bibliolatry"?<BR/><BR/>How does the author of this statement (and those who agree with it) explain Richard Hooker's formulation that has been taught in Anglican seminaries for centuries as a foundation of the relationship between Scripture, the application of reason to RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-45928690907157942572007-08-16T08:03:00.000-07:002007-08-16T08:03:00.000-07:00"It occurs to me that trying to take Episcopal Chu...<I>"It occurs to me that trying to take Episcopal Church property after you’ve left the Episcopal Church is like trying to take your office after you quit your job.”</I><BR/><BR/>It seems to me that claiming that property purchased and developed with the money, labor and sacrifice of a parish actually belongs to the National church and then pursuing it with lawsuits is a violation of the 8th RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-35122479546265005742007-08-16T06:36:00.000-07:002007-08-16T06:36:00.000-07:00...nobody......nobody...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com