tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post670349053441467743..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: It Is GOOD To Be King!SUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-74516408695634540512009-04-02T04:51:00.000-07:002009-04-02T04:51:00.000-07:00The will of the people was made very clear in Cali...The will of the people was made very clear in California. What if the majority of the people don't agree with you? Anybody's legislature or governor is subject to the ones who elected them. So just because the Vermont legislature may think this is a good idea the people also elected their governor. Does he not also represent the will of the people? How is that reconciled?Peter J.https://www.blogger.com/profile/00028918626210147571noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-43753071314030092972009-03-30T21:14:00.000-07:002009-03-30T21:14:00.000-07:00"Sodomarriage is something that God is not pleased..."Sodomarriage is something that God is not pleased with."<BR/><BR/>God speaks to you directly, does she?Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-11131692236645823822009-03-29T17:31:00.000-07:002009-03-29T17:31:00.000-07:00So, LGMarshall, you’ve absorbed centuries of bibli...So, LGMarshall, you’ve absorbed centuries of biblical scholarship and rejected it all in favor of a “literal” biblical interpretation (which involves some real mental gymnastics since the Bible wasn’t written in English). You’ve read all of the medical research of the past century on homosexuality and rejected that as well. You’ve evaluated all of the material referenced on this site, you’ve seenuffda51https://www.blogger.com/profile/11395027089123943228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-57982696107314377222009-03-28T20:01:00.000-07:002009-03-28T20:01:00.000-07:00"Sodomarriage"????Good God Almighty -- everytime I..."Sodomarriage"????<BR/><BR/>Good God Almighty -- everytime I think the ignorance of the argumentation on the "other side of the aisle" can't possibly sink any lower ... ooops: there it goes!<BR/><BR/>What if we start taking about "Vaginomarriage?" Does it work for you to reduce the complexity your primary relationship to a specific sexual act -- ignoring the emotional, spiritual, intellectual andSUSAN RUSSELLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-10247780550301114832009-03-28T13:38:00.000-07:002009-03-28T13:38:00.000-07:00I'm encouraged that Gov. Douglas is standing up fo...I'm encouraged that Gov. Douglas is standing up for righteousness even though it's hugely unpopular in this political climate. Sodomarriage is something that God is not pleased with. Sodomarriage is destructive, violent, and very unhealthful to the body. (It lowers the immune system AND defies common sense.) As Believers, our bodies are not our own. We were bought at a price, therefore, we shouldLGMarshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04902418111182358582noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-29430956458460899582009-03-26T21:00:00.000-07:002009-03-26T21:00:00.000-07:00My mistake; I was confusing New Hampshire with Ver...My mistake; I was confusing New Hampshire with Vermont. Still what is the majority necessary to override a veto. If the bill passes the House by more than that majority, we're fine. If not, no gay marriage in Vermont this year.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-54207172995742209712009-03-26T20:58:00.000-07:002009-03-26T20:58:00.000-07:00As I said on the other thread, it passed the House...As I said on the other thread, it passed the House, but by nowhere near the majority necessary to override a veto.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-89482917249536457152009-03-26T12:33:00.000-07:002009-03-26T12:33:00.000-07:00Another big reason for not having a referendum in ...Another big reason for not having a referendum in Vermont: IT SETS A DANGEROUS PRECEDENT. It's just a ploy of the Republicans to get referendums on the ballot. Again, I say, no, no, and again, no, to a referendum. You cannot decide civil rights of a minority by a vote of the majority. That's why we have elected representatives.<BR/><BR/>(If this were to go to a referendum, I think it would lose Caminantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16610142955176992982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-16241645204889452632009-03-26T10:31:00.000-07:002009-03-26T10:31:00.000-07:00First, I don't know what provision Vermont has (if...First, I don't know what provision Vermont has (if any) for submitting issues to referendum. Frankly, I hate referendums of any kind and think they're a bad idea generally. All I was saying is that in VT, it doesn't appear there are the votes in their lower house to override a veto, therefore, this isn't going to happen in VT until there's a new governor or until the voters themselves approve Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-78438688082331081962009-03-26T08:22:00.000-07:002009-03-26T08:22:00.000-07:00John, the governor thinks there are enough for an ...John, the governor thinks there are enough for an override.<BR/><BR/>From The Atlantic, The Daily Dish<BR/><I>The Vermont governor will veto the marriage equality bill passed overwhelmingly by the state Senate. The margin in the House is also very high, as Douglas conceded:<BR/>"I'm sure that legislative leaders would not have advanced this bill if they did not have the votes to override a veto. Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-73386197649729187882009-03-25T21:59:00.000-07:002009-03-25T21:59:00.000-07:00I agree with caminante. having been a victim to t...I agree with caminante. having been a victim to the lies the hate and relentless brutalizing attacks driven by the Mormons and the Catholics in CA, there is no way to have a true, fair, state referendum. THere is too much money and too much politics in this system. Referenda are now nothing more than mobs.<BR/><BR/>Of course, in CA, Ken Starr said that the mob, excuse me, the electorate, couldIThttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09605163506396013904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-34219687756978387692009-03-25T20:20:00.000-07:002009-03-25T20:20:00.000-07:00David, the consensus seems to be that there aren't...David, the consensus seems to be that there aren't enough votes in the House to override, even if the bill passes.<BR/><BR/>And I didn't say I wanted this thing to go to court, I want it to go to the voters because we have to win one of these elections some day and it looks to me like VT might be a good place to do it. Once the electorate somewhere has said they favor gay marriage, the Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-61166003176338430922009-03-25T19:47:00.000-07:002009-03-25T19:47:00.000-07:00"Frankly, I'd like to see this issue go on the bal..."Frankly, I'd like to see this issue go on the ballot in VT, because there, we might win and it would be nice to have gay marriage approved by an actual vote of the people somewhere."<BR/><BR/>No, no, and again NO. We don't want a lot of outside money pouring into Vermont, thank you. This state is small enough that we can buttonhole our representatives. We can take over the state house and we do.Caminantehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16610142955176992982noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-20844922278584676042009-03-25T18:07:00.000-07:002009-03-25T18:07:00.000-07:00Ah, but this is the much vaunted United Statesonia...Ah, but this is the much vaunted United Statesonian system of checks & balances at work. The state senate passed the measure with more than enough for an executive veto override, now the state house must do the same. Then this Republican governor can veto it and save face with those to whom he kow tows and then the legislature can pass it again and it is law.<BR/><BR/>Patience, all will be Brother Davidhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06333089314994730330noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-74762253284225049892009-03-25T15:18:00.000-07:002009-03-25T15:18:00.000-07:00Frankly, I'd like to see this issue go on the ball...Frankly, I'd like to see this issue go on the ballot in VT, because there, we might win and it would be nice to have gay marriage approved by an actual vote of the people somewhere.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17547673802645392683noreply@blogger.com