tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post6962741339546693823..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: On Broken Hearts & Valentines DaySUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-25670652888506572612008-06-04T14:27:00.000-07:002008-06-04T14:27:00.000-07:00when i learned more about this story i was in tear...when i learned more about this story i was in tears...im not a guy that typically drops tears very often. i was overwhelmed with the grief of this sitiuation, a young kid murdered my another. it is apparent that this WAS A HATE CRIME! I can empathize with the grief that the parents of King must feel, however, i can also feel for the young man who murdered him. His foolish homophobia has leadAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14811546947077919148noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-58119479344980972572008-03-28T17:32:00.000-07:002008-03-28T17:32:00.000-07:00I just want to say that first my prayers go out to...I just want to say that first my prayers go out to the family and friends who are experiencing such a great loss. Secondly I want to say that too many times in our society we focus on things such as whether or not this was a hate crime. Who cares, because quite honestly I believe any crime committed against another is a hate crime. The person committing the crime hates themselves so much for pamelabhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03894462823567490615noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-20397698836470456852008-02-20T12:04:00.000-08:002008-02-20T12:04:00.000-08:00“Why the rush to label it a hate crime?”Ronf, you ...“Why the rush to label it a hate crime?”<BR/><BR/>Ronf, you have now, in two different posts, suggested that this case is not a hate crime. Why? You can’t even bring yourself to describe the event accurately. Your use of language both minimizes the crime and casts doubt on the motive.<BR/><BR/>This is not a case of a “kid getting shot,” as though he didn’t die. This is not about “some poor kid’s uffda51https://www.blogger.com/profile/11395027089123943228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-72703723979358835292008-02-17T16:09:00.000-08:002008-02-17T16:09:00.000-08:00Well, Roger, we'll see when the actual evidence fo...Well, Roger, we'll see when the actual evidence for that becomes public. And if it's there, then fine. If he did the crime, he should do the time. But those comments that automatically presumed that this was a hate crime were made before any evidence to that end was public (which apparently it still isn't). They seemed to me to be more aimed at using some poor kid's death to make political RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-80034255019059839582008-02-16T15:35:00.000-08:002008-02-16T15:35:00.000-08:00This young eighth grade murderer wasn’t born hatin...This young eighth grade murderer wasn’t born hating gays. This was something he was taught. <BR/><BR/>Apparently he was not taught “Do unto others . . .” or “Thou shall not kill.” <BR/><BR/>At this point we can only speculate if this teaching came from specific individuals or from society at large. Sadly, he also learned that the American way of conflict resolution is violence, even if the targetuffda51https://www.blogger.com/profile/11395027089123943228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-63123896998429983782008-02-15T11:27:00.000-08:002008-02-15T11:27:00.000-08:00When I heard about this I was especailly grief str...When I heard about this I was especailly grief stricken because I thought about how even now the message of acceptance is being blunted in what is in my opinion a misdirected attempt to compromise what a majority of us clearly see as evil in order to not strain the bonds of affection with people who seem to be more than willing to strain those bonds out of fear of offending an angry God if they Dianehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04011100656498675753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-75825068517024588272008-02-15T09:53:00.000-08:002008-02-15T09:53:00.000-08:00Yesterday I was too angered by "ronf" and "tbone" ...Yesterday I was too angered by "ronf" and "tbone" to respond. This is not about sensationalism, people.<BR/><BR/>I pray for this boy and for the tortured soul who committed the crime. The presence of evil on Earth is surpassed by the Grace of God.<BR/><BR/>We must take responsibility for all of the people with guns, no matter how far away from them we may be. The presence of lethal weapons in Jack Sprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12894134532509615370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-8368512288205615722008-02-15T07:06:00.000-08:002008-02-15T07:06:00.000-08:00and pray for some sanity in this country about gun...and pray for some sanity in this country about gun ownership. Why can't we do something to keep guns out of the hands of children??Fr Craighttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04232925124388686609noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-32806270826632121352008-02-14T16:30:00.000-08:002008-02-14T16:30:00.000-08:00RonF, the Ventura County District attorney has cha...RonF, the Ventura County District attorney has charged the suspect with a hate crime, so apparently there is some substance to that characterization.<BR/><BR/>From the <I>Ventura County Star</I>:<BR/><A HREF="http://venturacountystar.com/news/2008/feb/14/school-shooting-suspect-will-be-charged-murder-hat/" REL="nofollow">School shooting suspect will be charged with murder, hate crime</A><BR/><BR/Roger Klinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12939561684826662257noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-84493786332088386432008-02-14T16:05:00.001-08:002008-02-14T16:05:00.001-08:00ronf - i understand your need for clarity, but let...ronf - i understand your need for clarity, but let's get real. This young person went against the grain of what society accepts as "normal" of how a boy should exhitibit himself. He wore makeup and one report said he had long nails. It is very likely that this is a hate crime. I know the taunting and teasing that goes on by other guys at school. When I was a teen and though I was not out I was Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07346054053029196178noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-61206071684413727692008-02-14T16:05:00.000-08:002008-02-14T16:05:00.000-08:00ronf - labeling this as a hate crime is what is go...ronf - labeling this as a hate crime is what is going to grab peoples attention. this may or may not be an actual "hate" crime, but because this kid was possibly gay, labeling as such will sell more papers and get more people to click on the links...tbonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12891198646499611482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-21865518883045200832008-02-14T13:32:00.000-08:002008-02-14T13:32:00.000-08:00This kid getting shot is a terrible thing. But al...This kid getting shot is a terrible thing. But all we know so far is that he was gay. There's lots of things that go on in adolescence that could have caused this. Why the rush to label it a hate crime?RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-76372072939029710162008-02-14T12:20:00.000-08:002008-02-14T12:20:00.000-08:00Susan,There's a nice picture of this lovely boy in...Susan,<BR/>There's a nice picture of this lovely boy in today's L.A. Times. Perhaps you can grab it for this post?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com