tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post8192699502648969118..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: Holy Irrelevant?SUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-51077359325528529702008-02-24T16:48:00.000-08:002008-02-24T16:48:00.000-08:00Zero sum is more complicated than that. In this c...Zero sum is more complicated than that. In this case each side is defining the zero sum on it own terms. To go back to the divorce analogy, you are asking one spouse to accept the infidelity or abusiveness of the other because the unfaithful or abuser says "I don't think this is infidelity or abuse." Note this analogy can refer to border crossings or same sex blessings. One side does not haverwkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00830764119515638281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-6817218876977112672008-02-24T14:30:00.000-08:002008-02-24T14:30:00.000-08:00rwk ... thanks for taking time to comment. Do me a...rwk ... thanks for taking time to comment. <BR/><BR/>Do me a favor.<BR/><BR/>Read (or re-read) Michael Hopkins' "Message to the Church"<BR/><BR/>http://walkingwithintegrity.blogspot.com/2007/07/for-record.html<BR/><BR/>And then get back to me on "zero-sum terms" from "both sides."<BR/><BR/>Thanks.SUSAN RUSSELLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-73158763006396739582008-02-24T12:06:00.000-08:002008-02-24T12:06:00.000-08:00Ok, I've tried to take time to think long and hard...Ok, I've tried to take time to think long and hard about this. By way of background I want to note I have a Master's Degree from George Mason University's Institute for Conflict Analysis and Resolution. I've gone back and forth between Stand Firm, Titus One Nine, Thinking Anglicans, Episcopal Cafe etc. and I just want to say that the this entire relationship between the two sides (I choose thatrwkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00830764119515638281noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-82923394100128097702008-02-22T07:13:00.000-08:002008-02-22T07:13:00.000-08:00Just a note here: ronf fails to mention all the ot...Just a note here: ronf fails to mention all the other things that the Bible also forbids/condemns. Why do folks always do that? Either you believe ALL of it or you have to stop beating others with the parts that serve your purpose. The spirit of Jesus was never about beating folks up with "God's will." The issue is about having someone to look down upon, to victimize because it makes us feel ppearsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11495104396111870151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-80482532823326456042008-02-21T14:34:00.000-08:002008-02-21T14:34:00.000-08:00Coincidentally, we rented "For the Bible Tells Me ...Coincidentally, we rented "For the Bible Tells Me So" last night, so I'm tempted to respond to ronf, but upon further reflection, I ditto Jack's well chosen words.uffda51https://www.blogger.com/profile/11395027089123943228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-82184516193606881142008-02-21T11:19:00.000-08:002008-02-21T11:19:00.000-08:00Okay, I wrote a point by point rebuttal of "ronf"'...Okay, I wrote a point by point rebuttal of "ronf"'s rant, but decided not to dignify his exclusionary, narrow-minded, literalist fantasia by providing a logical and reasoned response.<BR/><BR/>I do not presume to speak for Jesus or read his mind. I will however, reflect upon Peter's experience of the Lord:<BR/><BR/>Acts 10:28<BR/> Peter told them, “You know it is against our laws for a Jewish Jack Sprathttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12894134532509615370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-83685794131623252052008-02-21T07:14:00.000-08:002008-02-21T07:14:00.000-08:00The Communion has become obsessed with the consecr...<I>The Communion has become obsessed with the consecration of one man,</I><BR/><BR/>Has it?<BR/><BR/><I>and with the issue he represents.</I><BR/><BR/>What's that issue?<BR/><BR/><I>Isn’t this current obsession with LGBT people irrelevant,</I><BR/><BR/>No, that's not the issue. This is misdirection. The issue isn't an obsession with LGBT people. It's that a relatively small but economically RonFhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13533867151466876449noreply@blogger.com