tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post115062728294405513..comments2024-02-21T03:20:21.898-08:00Comments on An Inch At A Time: Reflections on the Journey: Clarity AgainSUSAN RUSSELLhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01795717638621668638noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150853480225940842006-06-20T18:31:00.000-07:002006-06-20T18:31:00.000-07:00JCFI am seeing the Borg at work for its own gratif...JCF<BR/><BR/>I am seeing the Borg at work for its own gratification.<BR/><BR/>Alas that in this critical juncture a Borgian liberal attendant solely on the agenda of "progressivism" with so little experience should be put in the PB office - whether male of female is not of consequence. But in the reality of the AC issues, it was a singularly ill-timed stroke.<BR/><BR/>Although, as I recall, the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150686325114443252006-06-18T20:05:00.000-07:002006-06-18T20:05:00.000-07:00Susan+, you missed the most important of the "mone...Susan+, you missed the most important of the "money quote." Asked why he stays in the Episcopal Church, Bishop Robinson talked about the love of God and the desire to bring others into the love of God -- a.k.a. evangelism. Then Canon Anderson said he stays in TEC because "I like to fight." For me, that was the end of the discussion. +Robinson stays here to evangelize. Anderson+ stays here to Lisa Foxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00881671380217888810noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150684016878721992006-06-18T19:26:00.000-07:002006-06-18T19:26:00.000-07:00What Jeff said!What Jeff said!Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267544451078638468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150680617447511502006-06-18T18:30:00.000-07:002006-06-18T18:30:00.000-07:00Clarity is to complyUm, that's The Borg talking, i...<B><I>Clarity is to comply</I></B><BR/><BR/>Um, that's <I>The Borg</I> talking, inked: not any Christian worthy of the name...<BR/><BR/><B>God bless +Katherine Jefferts Schori!</B> (And as the "Veil of the Temple was rent in twain", so also may be the Primates' <I>Old Boys Club!</I> <BR/>;-p)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150676828273846072006-06-18T17:27:00.000-07:002006-06-18T17:27:00.000-07:00I so appreciate your commentary, Susan, and the la...I so appreciate your commentary, Susan, and the late hour you kept to be able to write your thoughts for the rest of us to gain some sense of how it goes up there. <BR/><BR/>I have not read your earlier blogs on clarity. Nor do I have the vocabulary or the insight that so many of these others have expressed here. But I believe that clarity leads to power, and thus enables one to act. Without t.l.h.hellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02633375108151144635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150672000480487752006-06-18T16:06:00.000-07:002006-06-18T16:06:00.000-07:00Hear hear, Mr. Gibson!Tony, I don't mind worshippi...Hear hear, Mr. Gibson!<BR/><BR/>Tony, I don't mind worshipping with traditionalist cradle Episcopalians at all. What I do mind, and feel incredibly hurt by, is being told two months after being welcomed into Christ's body, and one month after being confirmed as a Christian, that I'm second class, good for contributing money and time but nothing else, and dirty and filthy and irredeemably sinful Davehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01744626513934324151noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150665502686262432006-06-18T14:18:00.000-07:002006-06-18T14:18:00.000-07:00I have to agree with Catherine that electing a wom...I have to agree with Catherine that electing a woman as Presiding Bishop is true clarity.<BR/><BR/>And doesn't the Holy Spirit have a wonderful sense of humor!<BR/><BR/>I just hope that Provinces in the Anglican Communion opposed to women serving as Bishops don't re-direct their anger towards GLBT members.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150665016917548182006-06-18T14:10:00.000-07:002006-06-18T14:10:00.000-07:00Jeff, are you a cradle Episcopalian? (I think Joh...Jeff, are you a cradle Episcopalian? (I think John already said that he is). Are you saying that your loyalty only is for the ecusa the way you want it, if it were to become more in line with the Anglican Communion, you would leave?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150661421777372842006-06-18T13:10:00.000-07:002006-06-18T13:10:00.000-07:00Here's some clarity. We have just elected our fir...Here's some clarity. We have just elected our first woman Presiding Bishop, The Rt. Rev. Katharine Jefferts-Schori. Now, I can deal with that kind of clarity!Catherinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04267544451078638468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150661062086211072006-06-18T13:04:00.000-07:002006-06-18T13:04:00.000-07:00Canon Anderson's answer was unfortunate, and I won...Canon Anderson's answer was unfortunate, and I wonder if it was given in jest. I stay in because I'm not going to get run out the church I was raised in. Frankly, I'm getting the idea that you all don't like us traditionalist cradle Episcopalians hanging around. Are we outside the limits of your inclusivity?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150653966768468832006-06-18T11:06:00.000-07:002006-06-18T11:06:00.000-07:00Labelling things idolatrous, and clarity, in this ...Labelling things idolatrous, and clarity, in this instance, does really not help IMHO. A love of ambiguity can be just as idolatrous: recall the Episcopal ghost in CS Lewis Great Divorce who loves the endless searching, the endless questions, the endless ambiguity but never gets around to thinking about life in light of the gospel. <BR/><BR/>What might be recalled about the WR is that it was a Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21609676.post-1150640934089493312006-06-18T07:28:00.000-07:002006-06-18T07:28:00.000-07:00Clarity is to comply with Windsor in acknowledging...Clarity is to comply with Windsor in acknowledging the unilateral and hurtful actions of GC2003, the abandonment of the teaching of the communion in Lambeth 98 I.10, and the pride and hubris engendering the whole debacle.<BR/><BR/>The inability to acknowledge these realities is wilful.<BR/><BR/>Clarity admits the reality GC2003 brought about. Clarity admits the need for repentance and the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com