Sunday, July 11, 2010

What Andrew Brown has to say about the CofE vote on women bishops

I have been watching this story, more or less, for nearly 25 years now, and in all that endless wrangling this is only the second time I can remember the synod making an unequivocal choice. From now on, things really will be different.

Read the rest here.


Jim said...

I hope he is correct. There is still a lot of process before progress.


LGMarshall said...

As Believers in Jesus Christ and his Word, we can look to the Bible for guidance, encouragement, knowledge and inspiration.

Re Women in premiere Leadership of the Body of Christ.... I keep asking myself this question..."I wonder why the Serpent in the Garden [Satan, Evil, The Enemy, The Deceiver, The Liar, The Destroyer....] went straight away to Eve with his deceitful question..."Did God really say....?" [GEN 3.1-7]

Do you ever ask yourself... 'why didn't the Evil one approach Adam first? After all, the Man has some type of power & strength, and it makes sense to go for the highest first..."

Yet, The Enemy, chose Eve to zone in on... It begs the question... 'Is it more Effective for the Deceiver , does it suit his Destructive purposes infiltrate through Woman ? -- The Woman, who has certain vulnerabilities, certain gullible tendencies ...certain weaknesses in relationships?

This, is the germane reason that God lays out Leadership of the Body of Christ for the Male to take responsibility for.

The Bible clearly lays out Leadership Roles in the Body of Christ. [1Tim3].

In view of Adam & Eve's fall in the Garden....Do you think that perhaps some avoidable mishaps may have taken place in TEC?

YES, I know, Adam partook of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good & Evil.... YES, he gave in to his Woman's influence. [because Women do hold much power over their Husbands], but do you think Adam would have given in to the Serpent? [I don't.]

There's plenty of spiritual warfare to go around.... why add to it?

"[...she took some and ate it. She also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. Then eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized they were naked...."] GEN. 3.6-7b.


I'll give you your first paragraph. So far we're good to go.

But then when you start reading Genesis as if it's history rather than myth ... well, you lose me.

No ... I actually don't ever ask myself why the story plays out the way it does ... but because I look to the Bible for guidance, encouargement, knowledge and inspiration -- not literalist nonsense.

And I certainly don't believe the God who created us all in love ... who inspired Paul to write that in Christ there is no Greek nor Jew, no male nor female, who chose to appear first to Mary in the Garden and counted women among his disciples ... I don't believe that Genesis has ANYTHING to do with rationalized sexist discrimination against women.

LGMarshall said...

....the bible does not rationalize 'sexist descrimination'.... it merely instructs on gender differences, strengths, weaknesses. Its there for us to use.... be smart! be insightful, use this knowledge to your advantage -- to honor God, to serve Him better. The smart tactician uses everything he/she has to get the desired result.

Paul teaches [via Jesus] that Salvation is open to ALL...male, female, jew, greek.... he doesn't say that there are no differences in God's creation.

kinda surprised you use paul to make your point... after all we know what TEC says about Paul...


Do we? I must have missed a memo.