Saturday, August 21, 2010

"Prop 8 Ruling Could Criminalize Christianity, Leaders Warn ..."

... And Liars Could Find Their Pants On Fire, Priest Warns

You can't make this stuff up. And even if you could, you wouldn't have to. Because they're doing it for you. From an article entitled: Prop 8 Ruling Could Criminalize Christianity, Leaders Warn:
( – Religious leaders warn that if an Aug. 6 ruling by a federal judge on same-sex marriage is upheld, it could wind up putting a gag on Christians speaking out about homosexuality – a gag that a top Southern Baptist leader says his denomination will not accept.

“It’s an astounding statement by a judge, and if that finding were to be upheld, it would criminalize Christian beliefs, because the Bible and Christian beliefs historically have clearly indicated that homosexuality is sex outside of marriage – and is contrary to God’s design,” Staver told CNS.

He added: “For this judge to say that Christian beliefs or religious beliefs contrary to homosexuality are actually harmful -- what that essentially says is, that if that’s the case, then you’ve got to change your religious beliefs, and if you don’t, you’re going to be penalized as result. That is a very dangerous aspect of this court decision
Two words for Mr. Southern Baptist leader: First Amendment. The one that protects freedom of religion. You get to believe whatever the heck you want to. You just don't get to write those beliefs into the Constitution. Got it?

Yes, I know it's over on CNS-News (not to be confused with CBS-News ... I did that once. Big mistake.) But it's exactly the kind of baseless, fear-mongering, manipulative bald faced lies that formed the foundation of the "Protect Our Marriage/Screw Your Marriage" campaign in California.

Here's the bottom line on this one: Good people of deep faith can read the Bible and come to different conclusions about a variety of things -- including what God thinks about blessing same sex couples but NOT including what God thinks about lying through your teeth.

9th Commandment.

Check it out. (And keep an eye on your pants while you're at it. Starting to see a little smoke. And you know what they say about where there's smoke ...)


IT said...

This is such utter lunacy. There is even a bill in the state of CA that specifically states what is already fact, which passed the assembly this week

The California Assembly today passed legislation that clarifies the religious freedom of clergy members in California. The Civil Marriage Religious Freedom Act, authored by Senator Mark Leno (D-San Francisco), reaffirms the separation of church and state and clarifies under state law that no member of clergy will be required to perform a civil marriage that is contrary to his or her faith. The Assembly approved Senate Bill 906 with a 46-25 vote. The bill will return to the Senate for a routine concurrence vote before going to the governor’s desk.

uffda51 said...

Sitting in church today it struck me how different things would have been a half-century ago in many churches – and how many "religious leaders" today feel that things should STILL be the way they were then.

In another church and time, our guest in the pulpit, the Dean of a Cathedral, would have been forbidden to marry his wife, due to miscegenation laws. One of our priests, a Yale graduate, would have been forced to use “colored” restrooms, if allowed in the building at all. Another would, even today, be asked to carry paperwork on him at all times to prove U.S. citizenship. All of the women priests would have been denied ordination. Gay & lesbian priests would simply not have been ordained, or even welcomed as parishioners, unless they stayed forever closeted. Marriage for gay & lesbian couples was simply out of the question (and still is, in most states, for the time being).

It’s important to remember that Jesus was criticized by "religious leaders" for healing on the Sabbath. The idea of valuing rules more than humanity is not a new one. But progress is being made.

LGMarshall said...

Bible believing Christians & Jews are not anti-gay... they are called to be obedient to God's Word, even if they disagree with it.

God is the one that hates sin. He grieves his disobedient children, and he will Judge.

If you have the Son, you obey the Father.

JCF said...

It's not "God's Word", you obey, LGM. It's your own, projected into the Bible.

Judge yourself.

IT said...

And around we go.... second verse same as the first.

The Bible says nothing about faithfully committed gay couples. NOTHING. It talks only about promiscuous sex and abuse.

It says a lot about the arrogance of judging others, however.